Soliciting advice for email newsletter sending services (for opt-in bgp.tools changelog updates etc) Looking for: A) Ones you have used first hand I do my own transactional email but I am not brave enough to do newsletters
B) Ones that are hosted in Europe (EU/UK/CH)
one honk maybe more
ysegrim@furry.engine..
replied 27 May 2026 09:05 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/LcvX9Tr8Tb2MGwpp24
@benjojo Posteo hosts mailman mailing lists, afaik 2 per paid account. So far I've used them for organizing events (i.e. max 30 recipients). Not sure whether this is what you're looking for.
benjojo
replied 27 May 2026 09:18 +0000
in reply to: https://furry.engineer/users/ysegrim/statuses/116645737466345271
@ysegrim hmm, I could maybe make this a mailman The goal is to have a more "marketing" list that people can subscribe to get my change logs ( example https://bgp.tools/kb/april-2026-changelog ) But maybe a mailman does do this, unsure really
jeroen@secluded.ch
replied 27 May 2026 10:02 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/9ym5w6ZWg84ccd4yQf
@benjojo @ysegrim @https://bgp.tools/kb/april-2026-changelog Are you worried about bounce handling?
@IPngNetworks uses mailman for such things, works fine.
or having the IP get a negative score (because people hit 'junk' instead of unsubscribe while they subscribed?) (1/4)
jeroen@secluded.ch
replied 27 May 2026 10:02 +0000
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Btw RSS is also a good solution (as pull instead of push, thus no spam handling, except for ratelimits possibly on a static file), even though for me rss2email sends that to mail anyway ;) (4/4)
benjojo
replied 27 May 2026 10:33 +0000
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benjojo
replied 27 May 2026 10:08 +0000
in reply to: https://secluded.ch/users/jeroen/statuses/116645963852453430
@jeroen @ysegrim @IPngNetworks I guess in a ideal world this is why I want to outsource it to a external provider, while it's not a traditional marketing newsletter, it does quack like one, so may as well use services designed specifically for that
russss@chaos.social
replied 27 May 2026 10:25 +0000
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@benjojo for EMF we use the bulk service from https://postmarkapp.com/ - it works pretty well. We also use https://listmonk.app/ to manage it.
benjojo
replied 27 May 2026 10:32 +0000
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dee@social.treehouse..
replied 27 May 2026 10:25 +0000
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@benjojo I just used Sendgrid (Twilio) for this... as their unsubscribe management was solid. the template / email builder was worse than mailchimp but I prefer deliverability over a pretty web UI
benjojo
replied 27 May 2026 10:33 +0000
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foobar@hsnl.social
replied 27 May 2026 09:23 +0000
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@benjojo i've only started using it this week, so no long-term experience yet. But I settled on brevo.com, which is a French service. Adding it for hackerhotel mails today. There is a nice list on https://european-alternatives.eu/
danbenton@mastodon.s..
replied 27 May 2026 09:39 +0000
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@benjojo Not sure if it fits but i have been using https://sendy.co/ for years which is self hosted and (while designed for AWS SES) allows you to send via a number of SMTP providers
networkstring@ablati..
replied 27 May 2026 10:30 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/LcvX9Tr8Tb2MGwpp24
@benjojo not sure if you mean services as in 'SaaS' or as in 'Mailman' but I've had nothing but good feedback from folks for whom I run https://listmonk.app/ instances. (They got booted from Sendgrid/Mailchimp because 'adult' not because of spam) If you've got all your DKIM/SPF etc sorted for transactional email then just run this in docker or whatever and give it some SMTP creds.