@benjojo Apple cider is already non-alcoholic... Why bother stating that on the can?

@subnet_masked @benjojo Right... in the US 'apple cider' is a non-alcoholic beverage, we call alcoholic cider 'hard cider'. Outside the US alcoholic cider is the norm, and non-alcoholic 'cider' is just apple juice.

Weirdly, the apples used for cider are not the same apples used for juice, they don't taste very good if they haven't been fermented. I wonder which type of apples are used for this 'soft' cider.

@benjojo apple. juice minus sugar plus malic and tartaric acid.

@amethyst @benjojo in Paris, you know cause o' the metric system, they call it a Royale With Apples

@benjojo seems rather pointless