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benjojo posted 24 Aug 2025 00:07 +0000

I know that January 19th 2038 is going to be super interesting and all, but did you know that DVB (the TV stuff) wont blow up?

It uses a slightly different timestamp (that is pretty miserable to parse as it turns out), so it can last a whole few more months past the end of the world, DVB will keep ticking along (at least in it's TOT and TDT packets) until May 22nd 2038

benjojo replied 24 Aug 2025 00:13 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/BL4CJDbDx814RqlgPd

Also we get a whole soft start on the whole "timestamps based explosions" saga on February 7, 2036, when the NTP one will stop working

Debian Trixie being year 2038+ ready and all is nice, but I feel like the scope of chaos is so so great that we are still no where near ready and we are still shipping systems that will be running in 2038, only for them to explode..

mirabilos@toot.mirbs.. replied 24 Aug 2025 00:48 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/3B5ZZ31z6JHwcQQ5XK

@benjojo huh. I just read up a bit on this.

The era is never transmitted, Mills just relies on external means (filesystem timestamps, pre-existing RTC setting, build timestamp if must be) to get the expected local time close enough. Urgs.

I guess I’ll have to patch that into my Linux ports of rdate and openntpd. (BSD sets the clocktime to the root filesystem time if the latter is larger, at boot; Linux, e.g. on that RPi1 I got as gift, happily boots into January 1970 and then complains.)