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benjojo posted 13 May 2026 16:55 +0000

Despite the common consensus, self hosting your outbound email it's not impossible to do (*)

bgp.tools has been sending it's own outbound email since day one of having the ability to send email, while i have been doing a migration i have discovered that rspamd (for DKIM signing) was keeping it's own logs outside of journalctl, meaning they never got rotated (grrr)

The upside of this log rotation failure is that I can give you this graph: The total email volume sent per month via bgp.tools

I don't think it has been particularly hard (other than hotmail) to run this, and it means that I don't have to give customer emails to another 3rd party.

I think the only struggle for a lot of people is that it's quite difficult to find "clean" or at least "boring" IPs to send out from. i suspect you probably couldn't replicate these results with Hetzner/Digital Ocean/etc without some serious fighting or luck


(*) unless your service depends on sending to hotmail/live/msn emails, because that shit is impossible

A graph that starts in 2022 with ~1000 emails a month and slowly grows to over 20,000 emails a month

benjojo replied 13 May 2026 22:07 +0000
in reply to: https://toot.io/users/hisold/statuses/116569386145494895

@hisold I don't think residential IPs have worked for a long time, but if depending on your ISP a business line should be fine

Confirmation emails for some services are just never received, not even in spam.

Yeah bgp.tools just refuses to deal with Live/MSN/Hotmail/live.com emails because it's not worth the frustration for the user and me