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benjojo posted 23 Mar 2025 23:51 +0000

Bend It Like Beckham, or bgp.tools in this case

(link(s) is up, so I guess I have gotten away with this)

A photo taken through a rack cage door, showing LC connectors in a NIC, the end of the optical cable (pink OM4 multimode) is bending against the rack door

benjojo replied 24 Mar 2025 12:06 +0000
in reply to: https://donotsta.re/objects/6f4274fb-afb5-4914-9b36-ffa0113e2552

@domi The other side of these 25G links are 100G (via breakout), the cheapest way to do this is to get a 100G-SR4 optic, with a MTP/MPO break out cable.

The comes out to (per 4 25G ports) for multimode:

$39.90 | 100G-SR4 Optic
$31.62 | MPO Breakout to 4x LC
$67.60 | 4x25G SFP28's

= $111.42 for 4 25G ports

For singlemode this would be:

$153.90 | 100G-PSM4
$107.60 | 4x25G SFP28's
$38.91 | Breakout cable

= $300.41 for 4x25G's that work the same, just SM

I don't really see a good reason to do SM if it's not going via any patch panels

wolf480pl@mstdn.io replied 24 Mar 2025 13:11 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/Y2j74tv14yYlcX2L4L

re: noob question

re: noob question

@benjojo @domi
oh wait, 10GBASE-SR runs *only* on multi-mode fiber?

Or rather

the single-mode fiber is single-mode at 1310nm not at 850nm?

Then where does "friends don't let friends run multi-mode fiber" come from? It's not just the fiber that's more expensive for single-mode, it's a whole different PHY, wtf wtf wtf....

benjojo replied 24 Mar 2025 13:15 +0000
in reply to: https://mstdn.io/users/wolf480pl/statuses/114217574367081028

re: noob question

re: noob question

@wolf480pl @domi Haha, _well_

10GBASE-SR/25G-SR/1G-SX is suppose to only be ran on MM fiber, In general it wont hurt (other than optical power I think) to run it in SM, but MM fiber is cheaper so "why" (other than it's what if you have)

1G-LX/10G-LR/25G-LR is suppose to only be run on SM fiber, but will sorta run on short 5m or less runs of MM fiber without too many problems

The main reason people hate MM is because the glass core is a lot thicker, it typically has a lot more problems with signal integrity, and so if you add patch panels etc, or just go longer haul, stuff gets more risky/troublesome a lot quicker, given peoples time is valuable, and DCs are non friendly spaces, people tend to prefer doing everything in DACs or SM cable+optics

benjojo replied 24 Mar 2025 12:16 +0000
in reply to: https://chaos.social/users/equinox/statuses/114217352628994002

@equinox @nblr yeah I kinda thought the same, those "plugs" look no different to what I've already done! I assume there is a bit of hard plastic enforcing the bend.

based on the optical power coming out, I dont think I've lost any serious amounts of light via this, so /shrug

The only thing I should keep in mind is that at some point over the years if I open the door, I bet the cable will flake away and fall apart, as old fiber plastic tends to do

wrmsr@peering.social replied 24 Mar 2025 14:15 +0000
in reply to: https://benjojo.co.uk/u/benjojo/h/M7hd6HQR914W5ZTt36

@benjojo I've stumbled across this situation also multiple times. What I did when not having angled LC connectors by hand was pulling the white bend protection off the connector and sliding it down the cable, giving some additional room to bend (with the downside of losing the bend protection as now there's only the metal left)